wreathsacrossamerica.org. >> martha: this is a great present. you can tell someone that you donated a wreath that will be laid at a veteran's cemetery. it's an extraordinary gift and great effort. thanks for being here. we'll see you tomorrow in new york. >> neil: six days out, title 42 closing in. now more than 1,000 migrants are gathering in el paso waiting to get in. add that to the hundreds of thousands that already have. this is a crisis that is now escalating by the minute. we are on it, all of it with bill melugin in texas where the numbers are building fast. peter doocy in washington with the pressure on the president is mounting and texas lieutenant chris oliveras on the dangers

that he sees. and now we have more on the make shift barriers that has the biden administration suing. it's a busy news days. we're on the border. we're on something else that is a big deal as well. the free fall of the dow today and all the major market averages. the big catalyst concerns that the federal reserve means what it says. they're going to keep hiking interest rates. that led to a growing sentiment worldwide that this isn't just a u.s. phenomenon. four major countries and all of the european central bank hiking interest rates by a point. all fear more to come to keep up with inflation that won't stop. what is interesting here, we had a retail sales report that shows the consumer might be showing the first time and for the first moment getting hit by all of this. holiday sales that might be dipping and cash that might be running out more than a little bit. we'll have more on this in just a second. meantime, let's go back to the

border and an escalating crisis there. bill melugin has more. bill? >> neil, good afternoon to you. we had a small group of migrants cross directly behind us. i don't know if you want to pull up the fox drone to show that. the real crisis is in el paso. city officials there say the federal government is releasing more than 1,600 people into their city every single day. sometimes several hundreds of them directly to city streets. we'll take you to el paso. show you the situation there. take a look at this new fox news footage shot last night showing over 1,000 migrants that have crossed illegally in to el paso. gathering and waiting at the border while waiting for border patrol to let them in through a chain link fence. getting chilly out there in el paso in the low 30s. you can see the folks setting fires. most of them from nicaragua and the local shelter there's total over capacity with the ceo of one of them saying they have not seen anything like this in 25

years. we'll go to eagle pass. this is another group that crossed here in eagle pass. you can see from the fox news drone, a group of several hundred in total. almost all single adults from nicaragua, columbia and cuba. this sector has had over 15,000 crossings in the 2 1/2 months. that's up 56% over the same time last year. then to the rio grande valley. take a look at these scans from border patrol at the checkpoint. they see a driver go through with a trailer. they found 15 people being smuggled in the back. a secondary bus, heavy machinery comes up. had a loose plate on it. take the plate off and found four illegals being locked in without anyway of getting out. lastly, the same exact checkpoint. the third biggest meth bust in the history of u.s. border patrol. what you're looking at in these

clorox bottles is 3,000 pounds of liquid meth that smugglers disguised as beach in these clorox bottles. one of the biggest busts. about 100 million dollars. out here live, this isn't just happening here in texas. other parts of the border as well. we talked about the miami sector. border patrol there reporting the first two months of the physical year, their numbers are up more than 500% when it comes to illegal crossings. they're getting a lot of belt landings with haitians, cubans and people from the dominican republic. things are expected to get worse in six days. >> now to peter doocy at the white house on what grand plan might be coming and how soon from the white house. peter? >> neil, the things that bill melugin is seeing at the border and the things that we're

hearing in the white house briefing room are totally divorced from each other. because despite everything that you just saw and heard, the white house press secretary says basically that they're happy with the way things are going at the border. this is from just now. >> the president has done -- has done the work to deal with what we're seeing at the border since day one. >> okay. they are pointing to a dhs plan six points on it. came out last night. a few items on there, surging resources to the border, increasing processing efficiency at cbp, administering consequences for unlawful entry, things like that. but the white house is trying to pass the buck now to congress. they say president biden put forward an immigration plan on his first day in office. it's up to congress to come up with a way to make it happen.

send it back to the president's desk. the speaker of the house said today that at least while democrats control the chamber for the rest of the month, that won't happen. congress will not act on this. nancy pelosi followed with the following. >> i do like talking about immigration though. it's the constant re-invigoration of america. >> they're insisting right now ahead of title 42's expiration, there's an all of government approach to prepare. it's not that though. people in the house or senate don't know what the plan is. neil? >> neil: and the details that we get don't even hint of a delay. in other words, pushing back title 42. that is just not in the cards, right? >> no. it's really interesting. this is a trump-era immigration policy. somebody asked karine jean-pierre today point blank,

do you guys think it's good or bad that it's going to expire? instead of saying whether they think title 42 is good or bad, they say it's the result of a court order that it's ending and we're going to follow the cord order. neil? >> neil: thanks, peter doocy at the white house. texas senator john cornyn not too pleased with what he's hearing from the administration and nothing of late has changed his mind. take a look. >> this is a big flashing green light to anybody and everybody from anywhere around the world, if you can get to our southern border, you can probably make your way in to the united states. it's dangerous and it's chaotic and it's creating a lot of hardship for border communities in texas. also danger across the country, particularly when it comes to the drugs that come across. >> neil: parentsly and you know better than i, senator, it's galvanized many south of the boreder from mexico to all points south. central and southern america. that is the green light will be

back on. now that it has not been on for a lot of folks anyway if it goes away and a surge is expected. do you agree with that? >> folks that look and think about coming to the united states, they can watch television, call or talk to friends and relatives in the united states. they know what's going on. they know that right now the open border policies mean if you show up at the border, you'll make your way in to the interior, probably never to be reporting to a judge or anybody that would make a decision on whether you have a legitimate claim. but here's something that i think the biden administration misses. if you go talk to the border patrol, they'll tell you they're detaining people from as many as 150 different countries. these are people that we have no real records on. >> neil: all right. chris oliveras joins us again. i like having chris on. he's at the front line trying to

assess what's going on. chris is with the texas department of public safety. chris, here we are six days away. play out if this is not pushed back, if the plan for the administration is not more substantive, what you and your men and women will be dealing with. >> well, no, you've heard it right there from the senator. you've seen bill melugin's reporting and the numbers increasing. that's with title 42 in place. with title 42 in place, we've seen record number after record numbers. we look at the different categories. not just encounters but got aways. the number of guests. fentanyl coming across the border. that has not changed with title 42 in place. title 42 is very effective. but also because the fact that it's going to be lifted, there needs to be a policy in place on top of title 42 so we can help step that flow of mass migration. the numbers continue to -- [technical difficulties]

>> neil: chris, we're having some audio issues with you. just to bring you up to date, the administration showed no signs today of wanting to or inclined to extend that deadline. because six days from now, on december 21, title 42, which has allowed us to adjudicate cases of those trying to cross the border on the the mexican side of the border will have to change that and do so on the u.s. side of the border, which effectively means there's a greater risk not only of a surge but of those being adjudicated on our side of the border of bolting and just going in to wherever. that is a very big concern here. we're keeping a very close eye on it. i hope to get oliveras back but the audio issues continues. we're focusing on what has happened at the corner of wall and broad. having nothing to do with the border but the uncertainty doesn't help. everything to do with the signs of the economy could be

sputtering. it wasn't because we got a half point hike in interest rates. it was because jerome powell after that said there could be more to come. gary kaltbaum says that's what is worrying folks that the fed is driving us in to a recession. gary kaltbaum, you've been on that view, right? >> yeah, real worry, neil. i believe the fed was behind the inflation front and had to play catch up. i think he's behind the recession front right now. and what is talking louder is the bond market. yields have dropped from 4.3% to under 4.5% end kating a slow down. they're raising and going all the way to 5%. when you have a debt laden economy, when you have a economy where savings rates have been

plunging and credit cards are sky rocketing, the economic numbers are striking along the retail and manufacturing front. i'm not so sure jay powell is listening. >> neil: it's interesting. you mentioned retail sales are down .6%. a big sign that there's less activity on the part of the con consumer. may they exhausted their funds. that's always been a worry. you've been citing higher debt levels. that's putting a punch on americans. that's like a self-feeding beast, is it not? >> yeah, look, there's no real worst scenario as when i post charts of savings rates down to the bone and record credit card usage. it tells you that consumers are spents up. when the consumer is 70% of the economy, it speaks volumes. again, the real worry is i just don't think jay powell is listening. i still worry that there's too

much of the market. to think that they can control a $40 trillion market and a $20 trillion economy with moves like this. again, real worrisome. i think the final arbiter is the stock markets. you're seeing it pretty big here. it started early in the week, financial stocks started really giving up in a very big way. now you see what you got today. it looks like there's low prices in the offing. >> neil: i was trying to look for some hope here. for example, home builders. they were up. i think on the notion that the ten year -- i don't want to bore people. i say that for actually all of my shows. one of the interesting developments the rate came down. there's a sense that we could be seeing a fifth straight week of declining mortgage rates. maybe that's a reflection of frustration with the economy, it's slowing down. that housing could surprise you.

are we leaping too far? >> well, look, that's huge. mortgage rates went from nothing up to 7%. as i said, the ten year, which is tied to mortgages had dropped. that will definitely provide some tail wind also. also, the good news is oil prices have come down a lot. that said, i just think there's a lot more going on. we've lost trillions in the reverse wealth effect. the economy was living off of the reverse wealth effect for a long time. we have the opposite on many fronts. there's a lot bigger things going on. that helps no doubt, lower rates help. oil prices to the down side helps. again, you saw the numbers today, neil out of the economy. they weren't just bad numbers. they were really bad numbers on manufacturing and retail as well as service. again, a debt laden economy, i'm not so sure it can stand it.

as i said the last three months to you, neil, i'm watching the job market as close as close can be. if we lose that and it stands tall so far, if we lose that, then real trouble lies ahead. >> neil: all right. shannon bream will be joining us right now. is she here or are we going to take a break? she's coming up next. i apologize. some communications issues. more my fault than anybody else. shannon, this issue that has come up again and again is do you buy the economy is good like the administration says, that it's best days are ahead of it or what wall street sensed today that just the opposite. i know janet yellen saying i agree with the president. by the end of next year, things will be fine. she didn't say that but we're through the worst of it. what sense do you get? >> honky dorie is a technical terms. great financial machines will

understand that. there's some chutes of hope, which is good. people see inflation moving in the right direction. it's not trickled in to their real lives. brand new fox polling shows that people feel like things are not in a good place. only 19% say they think the economy is in excellent or good condition. 81% say it's fair or poor. the tough thing for the white house, too, when you ask specifically do you think president biden's policies have helped or hurt you personally, they think it's making things worse. so you have this big chunk of the american electorate that says whatever good is happening has not trickled down for me. they think things will get worse next year. so there's a lot of toughness there for this administration. they can say and they can put up the data and the numbers. for most people, the reality has not hit their wallets and purses just yet. >> neil: i know the administration said look at gasoline. might have run up but it's back down. the best it's been in a year. still higher than when he took

office. he talks about food inflation, that it's come down. still up double digits. he talks about job growth. that's probably his central theme. jobs, jobs, jobs. he refers to the more than 10.3 million that are out there and there's no takers. that's a strong backdrop. he is right to say it's a distinctly different one than jimmy carter back with the stagflation nightmare of the 70s. you were too young, but i had the leisure suit to prove it. that was a real problem back then. not the leisure suit but the inflation. what to you think of that? >> i like the leisure suit. the inflation not so much. i remember being a little kid in my mom's car when you would get gas based on what your license plate ended in, what number it ended in. falling asleep waiting in the gas lines. there were real economic problems. the current generation didn't have that experience. but they're experiencing how tough it is to get out of the nest, to try to find a place to live. i talked to somebody that is a young homeowner looking for a

home today. they want to be. even though the rates didn't go with the 75 basis points, a half percent, it's moving the wrong direction trying to find a house and negotiate something that they can afford. so it looks like things are moving in the right direction, they're not seeing it yet. homeownership is out of reach for a lot of first time buyers and not to mentioned gas and groceries. >> neil: the one thing you always here is the anecdotal evidence that it's not so bad. theaters are pack. they talk about restaurants that are packed, hard to get in, even though i have no problem getting in to my italian bistro. that is short-lived. it won't continue. it's sputtering out. we're spending the last bit of our money. maybe i'm showing my age. but i can remember people saying that a year ago in the beginning

of this spending that it was short-lived. there doesn't seem to be any evidence yet the consumer has stopped. >> and consumer spending drives our economy. something that we're seeing is credit card balances look to be getting higher, not being paid off as quickly. people are going through their savings from covid and defaults on car loans are also coming up. i think there's indicators will that people are getting stretched. if you had anything extra because of covid, assistance that you got or things that changed during that situation, you're now commuting again, most people, you're spending money again. everybody wants to spend during the holidays. january is always a tough time. i think that there may be a bit of a wake-up call for folks out there. >> neil: i imagine this issue, the economy and maybe what the markets are telling us will come up on "fox news sunday." >> it is. we'll be looking at the border, the situational with title 42

lefting next week. we have exclusiving with congressman chip roy, congresswoman veronica escobar. they both believe there's a disaster. we're on an hour early because we're ling into the world cup final on sunday. >> neil: oh, that's right. forgot about that. since we're not in it, i don't care but that's probably not a very good view. especially when i learned that fox is covering it. bad move on my part. thanks, shannon bream. meantime, tik tok, well, they want it to rock but not here. not anywhere here. wait till you hear the concerted effort right now among republicans, in fact a lot of democrats to shut the puppy down. aishah hasnie on that. aishah? >> good way to put it, neil, always very clever with your wording there. we're getting so close to a -- some kind of a ban on tik tok. we're inching closer to it. it's stalled right now in the house. i'll give you a commercial break

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>> neil: all eyes on tik tok and whether it's a trojan horse. a number of states and other municipalities, cities, have talked about just banning it outright. we'll talk to arkansas governor asa hutchison about that. let's go to aishah hasnie where this stands nationally. it's more of a galvanizing issue. >> that's right. there's a bill that is moving through congress right now. that is senator josh hawley's bill that would ban tik tok on at least government-issued devices. devices that are incredibly important to national security. it did pass the senate last night by unanimous consent, which is a huge deal. speaker pelosi over at the house will not commit to bringing it to the house floor before the end of this congress.

>> she should make it a priority. she can do anything she wants. she can do it on the suspension list if she wants. she should make it a priority. >> while his bill stalls, neil, a separate bipartisan bill was just introduced to ban the popular app outright. so senator marco rubio and mike gallagher are leading the charge to ban all transactions from any social media economy in or under the influence of china, russia and several other foreign countries of concern. but chairman of the senate intel committee, mark warner, a democrat, says perhaps there's a way to keep tik tok around and just have the justice department regulate it. >> this is not an all bad platform. but there's huge risks. some folks say we can find a way to allow that creativity without

creating these risks. >> so you can tell, there's a lot of bipartisan push to get something done on tik tok. democrats and republicans both believing that there is a problem with this social media app, but again, as always, time is running out. neil? >> neil: aishah, thanks very much. let's go to governor hutchison, the republican governor of the beautiful state of arkansas. governor, where are you on this? there's an effort being led in your state, other states to ban it outright on government devices. where do you stand on this, governor? it's good to have you. >> well, thank you. it is -- we've issued a directive under my authority to all of our state agencies banning tik tok as an application that can be used. common sense says we shouldn't use tik tok on state government websites anyway. there's some limited cases that it could be used. we're banning that for a couple

reasons. one where it is stored, would have access theoretically to the chinese government. they would have access to data that is scored. secondly, it's based upon intelligence information that we get from the fbi and our security agencies. so i think it's absolutely clear that it should not be used on government platforms. that's why it's important that not just states do that and take that leadership but i hope the federal government will ban it on use of federal platforms as well unless there's a legitimate law enforcement purpose in it. that is a step that we've taken. i think it's important whenever you look at the potential threat and the compromise of data and the access to our state networks. >> neil: governor a lot of younger people love it. the tik tok, the dance videos. it's morphed in to something more. i get it. they hear about government spying on them and they cynically come back, well, we're always being tracked, whether it's by someone else, someone

here. what is the big deal. what do you say to that? >> first of all, it's a freedom of expression. that's question the steps we're taking is to government action, government usage, which is appropriate. it's a very larger step that would take to say you're going to ban it on private platforms and i don't think we're there. i think that's based upon specific intelligence information. as you reported, very well could be subject to regulatory action by the commerce department to take the protective steps necessary or the appropriate warnings. there is some freedom of expression. you want to hesitate any time you use government power to restrict citizens access to particular platforms. so right now it's a government step based on intelligence information. let's see where you need to go from there based upon the specific intelligence and the risks that are associated with

it. >> neil: if i could switch gears to politics. donald trump was to make a big announcement today. some thought it was a follow up for his intention to run for president. instead, it looks like an announcement for nft trading cards. what did you make of that? what do you make of his announcement and post actions since? >> well, like everybody else, i thought there was going to be something important said. there wasn't. it's about him making money. so whenever you think about the condition -- contrast about what you're talking about and fentanyl coming in, a lack of border security, a challenge with the economy. we have enough to focus on. that's what we need to be talking about and problems that we can solve through leadership

and through the political process. so it was disappointing and not worth responding to at all. >> neil: now, i know you were particularly critical of the former president with regard to just changing parts of the constitution, that that was a step too far. a scenario that would not make him and ideal -- paraphrasing here -- nominee for your party in 2024. can you expand on that? >> well, whenever you look at 2024 as i said, it's a worst case scenario to think that donald trump would be the nominee. that's simply because we need to get back to the future. meeting the challenges of today. people's pocket books. we don't need chaos. we don't need that distraction. there needs to be a serious discussion in 2024 on the republican party side as to how we're going to reflect the strength of america abroad, how we're going to unleash the

private sector when it comes to growing our economy, how we're going to support the rule of law in our border security and how water going to stop the challenge of fentanyl and deaths through overuse of illegal drugs. these are the challenges that we face. we have to talk about it. that's what america is yearning for. so to me, that's the 2024 debate. we just need to stay away from the distractions that take us back too old grievances. that's why in my judgment would be a worst case scenario to go back and retread the steps that donald trump took us in in the past election cycle. >> neil: still he could be your nominee. would you support him in 2024 if he were? >> we'll do everything we can to show that there's alternatives. you look at the the recent poll numbers. it shows that there's others that are really being competitive in that marketplace. governor desantis. i think it shows first of all

that people regard governors as problem solvers. as leaders. as serious policy makers that addresses the needs of their communities. so i think governors are reflected well. secondly, the polls are reflecting that we need alternatives. it's very early in the cycle. there's a lot of road -- >> neil: i understand that. he could still be your nominee. you talk about polls. you're right. it's early to sort of put a stamp on them. but in 2016 when he was running, he was not where near the top. people like jeb bush were. it was a crowded field that helped him. we could see a crowded field for republicans now and he could sort of divide and conquer. if he does, would you support him? >> first of all, i don't think that scenario will happen. i know you want to pinpoint me on what happens if he is the

nominee. that's a speculative question. i'm going to make sure that's not the case because i believe we need new leadership. if that happens, we're going to be -- i'm not going to be supportive of the democratic nominee. we'll consider the options there. i've been a republican for four decades. all of my life. i believe in the principals of ronald reagan and how we lead our country. that's what i want to focus on between now and 2024. >> neil: fair enough. about you. your name has been mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. where are you on that? >> well, i'm going to be finishing my eight years as governor this january. i'm going to turn it over to a republican successor, sarah sanders. i'm going to look at my future how i can accomplish what i talked about. which is guiding where we go as a country, being involved in that. we'll see where that leads. i'm concerned. after i do some duck hunting in

january, i'm going to be focusing on 2024 and the decision that i have to make. >> neil: governor hutchison, always a pleasure. thank you. if i don't talk to you soon, have a merry christmas. >> thank you. merry christmas to you. >> martha: governor asa hutchison. meanwhile, the border from the arizona perspective. some startling developments there that have a lot of arizona folks wondering why are we being sued again?

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is here. sheriff good to have you back. you have to be a little perplexed by this. you're trying or your governor is trying to fill up those gaps along the border. the administration comes along and essentially sues him. what happened now? >> well, good afternoon, neil. let me just say this. the big question for public safety is what side is our federal government on. i mean, there's two sides. you have the public safety side that protects this country, protects americans or we have the side of the criminal cartels that don't want that border secured either. so it is. it's alarming. our governor -- i speak as a sheriff in cochise count hi has worked with the sheriffs, the citizens to protect this country, to protect this border in arizona and to federal our federal government to go after our governor is alarming. let me just say this. then you have people saying that the governor needs to be

arrested for protecting his staff. i stand by governor ducey and all he's done. >> neil: obviously the administration says it has to be dismantled. what are you going to do about that? >> that's a legal question. this thing has been under litigation where our borders in the state of arizona, our governor has a right to protect his citizens and our state. the federal government says no, we don't want that. we don't want security on our border. they're not engaging with our governor. the governor is taking it upon himself absent the federal government to protect us. this is under litigation. now the federal government has said hey, you're going to remove them, pay for it, governor. it makes no sense. but most importantly, neil, it sends a message that the federal government once again is not protecting our state, our communities on the border and also our country. what is the measure to protect us then? i'd ask that question. >> neil: i have a feeling in six

days unless something changes, sheriff, you'll be a busy guy as if you're not busy enough already. assuming title 42 goes away, play that out for me. what do you fear, what do you see? >> well, once again, neil, we have taken another measure away. i get it, this is a health measure. we have taken it away and we haven't substituted for another measure to stop the flow coming in our country that we're seeing. these are record numbers. i just talked to the sheriff in yuma. they had 70 russiansmer day coming in to yuma county. there's no measure, neil. once again, we've opened this border and left states, governors, left our sheriffs, our mayors all alone here to find the best measures to keep our communities safe. what a shame. what a shame. >> neil: so the numbers that we

see and the fact that they could go double or triple now to say nothing of the got-aways, this could be a nightmare. there's others that this has been well-telegraphed, but it's not going to change anything. still will be big numbers but they won't be dramatically bigger. it would appear they will be dramatically bigger what do you see? >> well, that's a prediction that we're hearing, too. i just got briefed on this. the thousands that they they will be coming through the tucson sector based on my brief. that there's no good. i don't see this getting better than what it is now. that's the message. but again, there's no measure to stop it. as long as that measure is not being engaged by the president, leadership within congress as we said today, we are in a huge crisis that is only going to magnify like it does every day down on our borders and our communities endure it. i see it in my community.

1,400 arrests border related. these are the ones in my jail. 500 felony victims of crime. so again, it's not a good time, neil. >> neil: thanks, sheriff. hang in there. if we don't chat soon, have a merry christmas. it's not been merry times for your work. be well. thank you again. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: meantime, it's a massive storm and much of the northeast is getting hit with ice, snow and sleet and heavy damage down south. i mean damage. extreme damage. robert ray is there. robert? >> neil, two times in the past eight months, the new orleans metro has opinion hit by a tornado. where i'm standing, two times this building has been destroyed. we'll have the details coming up after this commercial break.

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robert? >> yeah, neil. good afternoon from louisiana. about four or five miles from downtown new orleans. you can see -- look at this behind me. this wall of debris with all of the mangled metal. this is a brewery that was destroyed by the tornado that hit yesterday here that crossed the mississippi river and popped up and down in the new orleans metro area, this is the second team this building has been hit by a tornado in 2022. what are the odds? the other team back in march, unfortunately as you see, all of this -- we're talking about huge steel beams and siding. three people have lost their lives in the state of louisiana. two in the northwest area near shreveport. a young boy, 8 years old and his mother and a woman in this area. there were three different tornadoes that came in to

new orleans yesterday. the one that ripped this area up just got labeled and look at as an ef 2 by the national weather service as it tracked at the edge of the mississippi river across from the city of new orleans. downtown new orleans in the french quarter, very lucky that that tornado did not pop down and create destruction there. unfortunately in this neighborhood as we see the pictures of destruction, there many homes in the destroyed caliber right now and blue tarps that are sitting on top of many of the homes. neil, guess what? they're not from the tornado that came yesterday. those are from the tornado that was last march, neil. back to you. >> neil: amazing, robert. thank you. enter gary senise. he says in times like these, there's hope. he's next.

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that actor on fox business. ♪ ♪ >> extorted by a group of people that wanted to help the kids out, you know during a very difficult time for them having lost a parent right before christmas time here they brought some people to, some kids to disneyland in anaheim, american airlines got involved and start applying the kids. then we moved them to dallas where that is the hub of american airlines. we were there for nine years and then folded it into the gary sinise foundation and approach disney with a great relationship with them over the years, movies and other things i've done with them. we started taking the kids there in 2018. we did another event in 2019. then the pandemic hit. we had to go virtual with our snowball express program. so we went online for a couple of years, 2020-2021 is providing

entertainment online for three days for the kids. this year, we were able to take them back to disney world. we upped the number of families we were able to take. this year, we had over -- i think we had 1151 children and upwards of 1900 people total. we took over half of the coronado springs hotel of a thousand hotel rooms. a cost a lot of money and it takes a lot of effort. there are multiple volunteers and great corporate sponsors that come in. it is a massive event and really a great way to wrap our arms around these kids who have lost a loved one in military service. >> neil: i talk to you a day at a moment the dow jones careening and people are sweating and worrying. but you step away from all of that. how do you advise people or try to make them look at the stuff that is important?

>> yeah, you know, like i said, neil i spend a lot of times in the hospital in war zones. i have seen people struggling. we built houses as you mentioned and we gave away our 81st house for badly wounded service members. i've spent time with them in the hospitals. i have seen how their families, you know, just stay with them and help them through these difficult times. you can have a wounded guy in the hospital or gal and he could have 200 different surgeries over three years. and they are just spending all of their lights in the hospital. the family goes through difficult time with them. i have learned from them and inspired by them and motivated by them. and i've had a lot of success in the movie and television business. "csi: new york" was a great run for nine years. i was able to take some of that financial success and turn it into doing some good for others.

>> neil: you talk about bringing csi, whether in new york, vegas or bringing you back. i think you were nine seasons on "csi: new york." what is the latest? >> that was a great run. 197 episodes. it was a big run. it came at the right time here there is a chapter in my book grateful american called "perfect timing" and how i was it ramping up my efforts to support first responders at the same time csi came along. all of it sudden i had a platform on public television. i was a produce from the show. it was lucrative in that way. i was able to put money away and do some good with it. >> neil: you know, gary, that is one thing we have in common, i am a humble person. [laughter] but i mean this, seriously. every time i see you do anything

to me you are. me, i'm off camera a completely different person. i'm not even that great on camera. but what is stressing and i have watched you and admired you many years. you kept your foundation. you kept your basic person. no matter how rich or successful you came. i find that remarkable because i also find something else they are. what do you make of that? >> i grew up in chicago. my dad was in the navy. you know, midwest folk spirit and my was a film editor in chicago. then, he moved out to chicago. i had a mild domestic modest upbringing. that is where i started acting and i was able to start theater. you know, it has been a challenging at times life, but also very blessed in so many ways. i am so glad i could do some

good with it. i'm thankful i have a good team the gary sinise foundation keeping it going and so many wonderful sponsors, supporters, donors and people helping us to do good for others. >> neil: gary sinise, that is the biggest role of all purity has helped tens of thousands and remember those who serve our countries and those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country. that is untouchable. ♪ ♪ >> greg: hi, greg gutfeld with katie katie pavlich, dana dana perino, janine pyro, and "the five." america we may have finally reached peak covid hysteria. the pandemic is supposed to be over but the liberals keep climbing the mountain of covid uncertainty. put on your hiking boots and we will climb this together